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	<title>Comments on: Spam, Beer, and Black Hat Affiliate Marketing</title>
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	<description>Affiliate marketing news and opinion from Shawn Collins, an affiliate marketer since 1997, and co-founder of Affiliate Summit.</description>
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		<title>By: spam monkey</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/spam-beer-and-black-hat-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-78766</link>
		<dc:creator>spam monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Message&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8314&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Tim:&lt;/a&gt;
lmao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Message<a href="#comment-8314" rel="nofollow">@Tim:</a><br />
lmao</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Collins</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/spam-beer-and-black-hat-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-8347</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just giving the latest episode a listen and thought I&#039;d comment on Mark&#039;s following quote...

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Spam is subjective, which means it means something different for me or for Shawn.

And I didn&#039;t know if Shawn disagreed that spam is subjective or not.

I mean it could be anything to anybody really.

You know, I called Shawn a spammer when I came on here. If you ever do a search for a product that isn&#039;t mainstream, like CNET has covered it, what do you get on there?

You get the Shopping.com&#039;s and the big affiliates, and then after that you get the smaller affiliates.

I mean, it&#039;s the biggest pain in the rear to find some decent information, because people like Shawn and other mainstream people are promoting data feeds and using merchant copy.

They&#039;re filling the search engines with spam just as much as I am. Maybe scraping directory listings or whatnot.

So, I guess, ultimately what I was saying is that spam is subjective really.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I stated on the show, I don&#039;t work with data feeds and I think a lot of data feed sites are worthless, and that they should have a unique value proposition.

So your characterization of &quot;people like Shawn&quot; is completely without merit.

The thing that &quot;people like Shawn&quot; do is to create unique content and play by the rules.

On the subjectivity of spam, I disagree here, too. 

An example of absolute spam is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.affiliatetip.com/45n5.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;screen shot&lt;/a&gt; I included in my post from Mark&#039;s site.

I&#039;ve enlarged the area where keyword stuffing is taking place on that page:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.affiliatetip.com/keyword-stuffing.jpg&quot;&gt;

Given that example, I don&#039;t think there is any ambiguity. It&#039;s spam and it serves no function other than to trick the search engines. 

&quot;People like Shawn&quot; don&#039;t do this sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just giving the latest episode a listen and thought I&#8217;d comment on Mark&#8217;s following quote&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Spam is subjective, which means it means something different for me or for Shawn.</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t know if Shawn disagreed that spam is subjective or not.</p>
<p>I mean it could be anything to anybody really.</p>
<p>You know, I called Shawn a spammer when I came on here. If you ever do a search for a product that isn&#8217;t mainstream, like CNET has covered it, what do you get on there?</p>
<p>You get the Shopping.com&#8217;s and the big affiliates, and then after that you get the smaller affiliates.</p>
<p>I mean, it&#8217;s the biggest pain in the rear to find some decent information, because people like Shawn and other mainstream people are promoting data feeds and using merchant copy.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re filling the search engines with spam just as much as I am. Maybe scraping directory listings or whatnot.</p>
<p>So, I guess, ultimately what I was saying is that spam is subjective really.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>As I stated on the show, I don&#8217;t work with data feeds and I think a lot of data feed sites are worthless, and that they should have a unique value proposition.</p>
<p>So your characterization of &#8220;people like Shawn&#8221; is completely without merit.</p>
<p>The thing that &#8220;people like Shawn&#8221; do is to create unique content and play by the rules.</p>
<p>On the subjectivity of spam, I disagree here, too. </p>
<p>An example of absolute spam is the <a href="http://www.affiliatetip.com/45n5.jpg" rel="nofollow">screen shot</a> I included in my post from Mark&#8217;s site.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve enlarged the area where keyword stuffing is taking place on that page:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.affiliatetip.com/keyword-stuffing.jpg"/></p>
<p>Given that example, I don&#8217;t think there is any ambiguity. It&#8217;s spam and it serves no function other than to trick the search engines. </p>
<p>&#8220;People like Shawn&#8221; don&#8217;t do this sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: No Hat</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/spam-beer-and-black-hat-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-8341</link>
		<dc:creator>No Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy Mark is a joke. He&#039;s rambling about adults legally having a beer while his whole business is based on scamming people.

Perfect example is that screen shot - he&#039;s spamming search engines with an ebook on black hat &quot;tricks&quot;.

And then on the podcast he criticises other people for spamming search engines; and say&#039;s he&#039;s never heard of the ebook and isn&#039;t promoting it.

I think the affiliate gene pool needs an overhaul when I see cases like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy Mark is a joke. He&#8217;s rambling about adults legally having a beer while his whole business is based on scamming people.</p>
<p>Perfect example is that screen shot &#8211; he&#8217;s spamming search engines with an ebook on black hat &#8220;tricks&#8221;.</p>
<p>And then on the podcast he criticises other people for spamming search engines; and say&#8217;s he&#8217;s never heard of the ebook and isn&#8217;t promoting it.</p>
<p>I think the affiliate gene pool needs an overhaul when I see cases like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/spam-beer-and-black-hat-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-8314</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s too kind to suggest that this guy is a black hat. There is a certain prestige and competence associated with the title.

He doesn&#039;t even have the sense to hide his cheating methods.

I hereby confiscate his black hat and replace it with a dunce cap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s too kind to suggest that this guy is a black hat. There is a certain prestige and competence associated with the title.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t even have the sense to hide his cheating methods.</p>
<p>I hereby confiscate his black hat and replace it with a dunce cap.</p>
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		<title>By: Doing Your Thing</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/spam-beer-and-black-hat-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-8220</link>
		<dc:creator>Doing Your Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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