Comments on: GeekCast 19: Tough Love for Overstock.com

By: Shawn Collins

Shawn Collins — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:12:27 +0000

Patrick Byrne of Overstock on advertising tax back in May ’08 (comment section) http://bit.ly/ocmNQ

By: Overstock Terminates California Affiliates | Affiliate Marketing Blog by Shawn Collins

Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:43:00 +0000

[...] in May 2008, Jim Kukral, Lisa Picarille, Sam Harrelson and myself talked about Overstock and their actions with the New York advertising tax. It’s an interesting listen on the issue over a year later and you can see feedback from [...]

By: Patrick Byrne

Patrick Byrne — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:46:26 +0000

Inisheer,

Because by having an affiliate in New York, it would give us nexus, and so we would have to start paying tax on all New York sales. Not just affiliate ones.

Patrick

By: Patrick Byrne

Patrick Byrne — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:46:26 +0000

Inisheer,

Because by having an affiliate in New York, it would give us nexus, and so we would have to start paying tax on all New York sales. Not just affiliate ones.

Patrick

By: Inisheer

Inisheer — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:07:00 +0000

Mr. Byrne,
I run an affiliate site so I'm on your side in this one, but I have to basically agree with the other posters who say your math doesn't make sense. How is the tax on $10 million in affiliate sales going to produce a $5 million liability for you? I would be careful about blurring the line between tax on your overall New York sales and your affiliate sales, as it will weaken your argument as the affiliate tax issue progresses – and I expect you to be one of the most quoted voices in the argument. Correct me if I'm wrong.

By: Rebecca Madigan

Rebecca Madigan — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:52:59 +0000

Patrick,
I'm working with a group to launch an affiliate marketing professional association. Our hope is that through a united voice and education, we can make sure we have a collective and timely response to these kinds of issues. Or better yet, we hope to mature to retain professionals that can help the industry lobby against this kind of legislature.

Patrick, I'd very much like to talk to you further about your thoughts on an industry association. Please email me at rebecca@affiliateclassroom.com.

If others are interested in providing input or becoming involved, please email me as well.

By: When Taxes Have a Chilling Effect | Small Business Trends

When Taxes Have a Chilling Effect | Small Business Trends — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:18:42 +0000

[...] its New York affiliates, and so have other companies. In a comment over at the Affiliate Tip blog, Overstock’s CEO does the math explaining why they eliminated their New York affiliates. It’s a perfect example of the chilling effect that taxes have on [...]

By: Overstock Sues New York Over Affiliate Tax | Affiliate Marketing Blog by Shawn Collins

Sat, 31 May 2008 17:08:21 +0000

[...] this week, Overstock chairman and CEO Patrick Byrne shared his perspective in my blog comments on this [...]

By: Stefani

Stefani — Wed, 28 May 2008 15:12:14 +0000

I enjoyed your cast!

By: Shawn Collins

Shawn Collins — Wed, 28 May 2008 11:13:44 +0000

Hi Patrick -

I was referring to the previous commenter who was pointing to a thread on ABestWeb.com.

I understand and empathize with the situation thrust upon you and others by New York state.

While it is easy to play armchair quarterback over here, I would have liked to see you guys contest the law, rather than accept it, as such acceptance may well lead to other sates adopting similar laws.