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	<description>Affiliate marketing news and opinion from Shawn Collins, an affiliate marketer since 1997, and co-founder of Affiliate Summit.</description>
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		<title>By: TrishaLyn - Cribbed Content for June 27th</title>
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		<dc:creator>TrishaLyn - Cribbed Content for June 27th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Once again, the affiliate marketing industry attacked as douchebags.Â  And by people who call themselves professionals, no less.Â  Shawn Collins did all the lashing out necessary in his blog Consultants Can Fix Affiliate Marketing. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Once again, the affiliate marketing industry attacked as douchebags.Â  And by people who call themselves professionals, no less.Â  Shawn Collins did all the lashing out necessary in his blog Consultants Can Fix Affiliate Marketing. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brook Schaaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brook Schaaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posting, Shawn. This is exactly the type of misinformation we need to combat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peter hit the nail right on the head with his comment &quot;There is a conflict of interest when the bad mouthing comes from a PPC consulting group that uses this to promote their PPC services vs. affiliate marketing .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great posting, Shawn. This is exactly the type of misinformation we need to combat.</p>
<p>Peter hit the nail right on the head with his comment &#8220;There is a conflict of interest when the bad mouthing comes from a PPC consulting group that uses this to promote their PPC services vs. affiliate marketing .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brook Schaaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brook Schaaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posting, Shawn. This is exactly the type of misinformation we need to combat.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peter hit the nail right on the head with his comment &quot;There is a conflict of interest when the bad mouthing comes from a PPC consulting group that uses this to promote their PPC services vs. affiliate marketing .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great posting, Shawn. This is exactly the type of misinformation we need to combat.</p>
<p>Peter hit the nail right on the head with his comment &#8220;There is a conflict of interest when the bad mouthing comes from a PPC consulting group that uses this to promote their PPC services vs. affiliate marketing .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Panel Ethics and Affiliate Bashing at the 2008 Internet Retailer Conference &#124; Relevantly Speaking</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/consultants-can-fix-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-73720</link>
		<dc:creator>Panel Ethics and Affiliate Bashing at the 2008 Internet Retailer Conference &#124; Relevantly Speaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Collins has posted a sound response on his blog &#8220;Consultants Can Fix Affiliate Marketing&#8221;Â that challenges and counters George Michie&#8217;s childish BS! There is also a good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Collins has posted a sound response on his blog &#8220;Consultants Can Fix Affiliate Marketing&#8221;Â that challenges and counters George Michie&#8217;s childish BS! There is also a good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GeekCast 24: LinkShare Award Predictions &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog by Shawn Collins</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/consultants-can-fix-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-73718</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekCast 24: LinkShare Award Predictions &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog by Shawn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Consultants Can Fix Affiliate Marketing  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: GeekCast 24: LinkShare Award Predictions : GeekCast.fm</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/consultants-can-fix-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-73717</link>
		<dc:creator>GeekCast 24: LinkShare Award Predictions : GeekCast.fm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rimm-Kaufman Group on Affiliate Marketing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: peter bordes</title>
		<link>http://blog.affiliatetip.com/archives/consultants-can-fix-affiliate-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-74553</link>
		<dc:creator>peter bordes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a conflict of interest when the bad mouthing comes from a PPC consulting group that uses this to promote their PPC services vs. affiliate marketing . Its very transparent when you read thru all his comments. VERY TRANSPARENT!. I don&#039;t think Amazon or Overstock would be spending money fighting the affiliate tax issue if they felt the same way. There is also zero data to back up his claims. Its unfortunate because both are very viable and valuable channels that coexist with each other and work together on behalf of their partner.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;leaders of panels need to maintain objectivity and present all side of the issue so solutions can be created thru a dialog.I find this behavior unethical and irresponsible towards the entire industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a conflict of interest when the bad mouthing comes from a PPC consulting group that uses this to promote their PPC services vs. affiliate marketing . Its very transparent when you read thru all his comments. VERY TRANSPARENT!. I don&#39;t think Amazon or Overstock would be spending money fighting the affiliate tax issue if they felt the same way. There is also zero data to back up his claims. Its unfortunate because both are very viable and valuable channels that coexist with each other and work together on behalf of their partner.</p>
<p>leaders of panels need to maintain objectivity and present all side of the issue so solutions can be created thru a dialog.I find this behavior unethical and irresponsible towards the entire industry.</p>
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		<title>By: affiliate named laprentiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>affiliate named laprentiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome article!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Its crazy how people automatically trash and talk bad on the whole affiliate marketing community. After they have a bad experience, we are all considered bad. hmph!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome article!</p>
<p>Its crazy how people automatically trash and talk bad on the whole affiliate marketing community. After they have a bad experience, we are all considered bad. hmph!</p>
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		<title>By: MediaTrust</title>
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		<dc:creator>MediaTrust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THANK YOU SHAWN! Georges position has no objectivity and looks like he is taking advantage of his panel position to bring up the issue of the PPC marketing channel vs. affiliate marketing channel (go figure he has a ppc marketing firm) He also makes statements that have ZERO objectivity or any facts and data to back up his rant. which came out of both side of his mouth! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HERE IS MY COMMENT BACK TO HIM:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;   7.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      George&lt;br&gt;      We at MediaTrust are very familiar with and understand the issue at hand. Yes the affiliate industry has had issues with a percentage of affiliates who do not practice or adhere to ethical standards. But there is also the very large very legitimate side of affiliate marketing which has been referenced to in this interview with Patrick Byrne where he says how large and valuable Overstocks affiliate program is to there marketing and growth strategy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.relevantlyspeaking.com/2008/06/05/interview-with-overstocks-ceo-patrick-byrne&quot;&gt;http://www.relevantlyspeaking.com/2008/06/05/in...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      Its a shame that the panel discussion turned into a affiliate bashing and that the panel was not rounded out with affiliate marketing representation. It does not sound like it was a very objective panel. As is your post here where you apologize and then summarily bash and belittle the substantial $3billion in affiliate commissions as being mostly fraudulently created revenue with out any back up data to prove your statement. Especially when you say it provides no value. Please read the Overstock post and lets also ask why they and Amazon are spending money defending their affiliate program and affiliate partners.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      There are many more good people in this marketing vertical than bad. The industry has now formed the PMA &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.performancemarketingalliance.com&quot;&gt;http://www.performancemarketingalliance.com&lt;/a&gt; to set standards and govern the industry.It is important that all sides of the business participate in the PMA so that we can learn from their insights and provide better accountable service and standards. Aff marketing is not going away. So lets all work together to bring it to a level of excellence. negativity breeds negativity and it seems that everyone wants to create a better affiliate marketing channel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      There are other companies like ours who work extremely hard to ensure quality and empower of advertising and affiliate partners with the best tools and information to achieve success by collaborating and creating long term partnerships.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      It is important that thought leaders be responsible in giving well rounded and objective sides of the 3billion plus story and work together with the community to find solutions.That 3 billion number is only commission. So we are talking about enormous gross transactional number that is driving much value to many of the world largest retailers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      I hope you will help create proactive solutions by participating in the PMA. Please excuse me for the length of this post.It is a very important subject for us and our performance marketing industry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      all the best&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;      Peter Bordes&lt;br&gt;      CEO&lt;br&gt;      MediaTrust</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANK YOU SHAWN! Georges position has no objectivity and looks like he is taking advantage of his panel position to bring up the issue of the PPC marketing channel vs. affiliate marketing channel (go figure he has a ppc marketing firm) He also makes statements that have ZERO objectivity or any facts and data to back up his rant. which came out of both side of his mouth! </p>
<p>HERE IS MY COMMENT BACK TO HIM:</p>
<p>   7.</p>
<p>      George<br />      We at MediaTrust are very familiar with and understand the issue at hand. Yes the affiliate industry has had issues with a percentage of affiliates who do not practice or adhere to ethical standards. But there is also the very large very legitimate side of affiliate marketing which has been referenced to in this interview with Patrick Byrne where he says how large and valuable Overstocks affiliate program is to there marketing and growth strategy <a href="http://www.relevantlyspeaking.com/2008/06/05/interview-with-overstocks-ceo-patrick-byrne">http://www.relevantlyspeaking.com/2008/06/05/in&#8230;</a></p>
<p>      Its a shame that the panel discussion turned into a affiliate bashing and that the panel was not rounded out with affiliate marketing representation. It does not sound like it was a very objective panel. As is your post here where you apologize and then summarily bash and belittle the substantial $3billion in affiliate commissions as being mostly fraudulently created revenue with out any back up data to prove your statement. Especially when you say it provides no value. Please read the Overstock post and lets also ask why they and Amazon are spending money defending their affiliate program and affiliate partners.</p>
<p>      There are many more good people in this marketing vertical than bad. The industry has now formed the PMA <a href="http://www.performancemarketingalliance.com">http://www.performancemarketingalliance.com</a> to set standards and govern the industry.It is important that all sides of the business participate in the PMA so that we can learn from their insights and provide better accountable service and standards. Aff marketing is not going away. So lets all work together to bring it to a level of excellence. negativity breeds negativity and it seems that everyone wants to create a better affiliate marketing channel.</p>
<p>      There are other companies like ours who work extremely hard to ensure quality and empower of advertising and affiliate partners with the best tools and information to achieve success by collaborating and creating long term partnerships.</p>
<p>      It is important that thought leaders be responsible in giving well rounded and objective sides of the 3billion plus story and work together with the community to find solutions.That 3 billion number is only commission. So we are talking about enormous gross transactional number that is driving much value to many of the world largest retailers.</p>
<p>      I hope you will help create proactive solutions by participating in the PMA. Please excuse me for the length of this post.It is a very important subject for us and our performance marketing industry.</p>
<p>      all the best</p>
<p>      Peter Bordes<br />      CEO<br />      MediaTrust</p>
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